1 00:00:02,950 --> 00:00:32,709 [Music] 2 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:34,470 greenland 3 00:00:38,869 --> 00:00:36,480 a massive ice-covered island in the 4 00:00:41,670 --> 00:00:38,879 northern arctic a land of pristine 5 00:00:42,869 --> 00:00:41,680 waters enormous glaciers and ancient 6 00:00:44,790 --> 00:00:42,879 geology 7 00:00:47,350 --> 00:00:44,800 and for some the site of a hotly 8 00:00:49,910 --> 00:00:47,360 contested claim of the oldest signs of 9 00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:49,920 microbial life on earth 10 00:00:55,830 --> 00:00:52,879 meet dr abigail allwood astrobiologist 11 00:00:57,270 --> 00:00:55,840 at the nasa jet propulsion laboratory dr 12 00:00:59,430 --> 00:00:57,280 allwood is here in greenland to 13 00:01:01,990 --> 00:00:59,440 investigate recently published findings 14 00:01:05,429 --> 00:01:02,000 of possible stromatolites or microbial 15 00:01:05,940 --> 00:01:05,439 fossils dating back to 3.7 billion years 16 00:01:07,590 --> 00:01:05,950 ago 17 00:01:09,190 --> 00:01:07,600 [Music] 18 00:01:11,510 --> 00:01:09,200 it's always when i go and see some rocks 19 00:01:12,789 --> 00:01:11,520 and outcrops in the flesh 20 00:01:14,310 --> 00:01:12,799 it's so much 21 00:01:15,670 --> 00:01:14,320 so so much more eye opening and 22 00:01:18,149 --> 00:01:15,680 informative than it is to read about 23 00:01:19,590 --> 00:01:18,159 them in papers and absolutely the case 24 00:01:21,670 --> 00:01:19,600 with this one when i came to see them 25 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:21,680 after that paper was published i very 26 00:01:25,749 --> 00:01:23,360 much doubted that interpretation and i 27 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:25,759 thought well we need to do two things we 28 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:27,040 need to put a paper out and secondly we 29 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:28,560 need to do a workshop and bring a lot of 30 00:01:31,350 --> 00:01:30,240 people out here to 31 00:01:32,870 --> 00:01:31,360 also 32 00:01:34,469 --> 00:01:32,880 see what their opinion is be some sort 33 00:01:38,789 --> 00:01:34,479 of a consensus on 34 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:40,630 extraordinary claims require 35 00:01:46,469 --> 00:01:43,119 extraordinary evidence and a finding 36 00:01:48,069 --> 00:01:46,479 like this requires further investigation 37 00:01:50,630 --> 00:01:48,079 dr allwood has gathered a team of 38 00:01:53,109 --> 00:01:50,640 astrobiologists and will now travel by 39 00:01:57,870 --> 00:01:53,119 helicopter into the wilderness of the 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:40,229 [Music] 41 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:42,790 so we're out here to study an outcrop 42 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:44,800 that there is some controversy over 43 00:02:51,030 --> 00:02:48,239 there is a group of authors that has 44 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:51,040 made a claim that there are uh uh 45 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:52,560 biosignatures in the form of 46 00:02:57,430 --> 00:02:54,959 stromatolites in these rocks and there's 47 00:02:59,830 --> 00:02:57,440 another group of authors uh i happen to 48 00:03:02,229 --> 00:02:59,840 be one of that other group of authors uh 49 00:03:04,630 --> 00:03:02,239 that has refuted that claim so we're out 50 00:03:07,350 --> 00:03:04,640 here in greenland to study those 51 00:03:09,350 --> 00:03:07,360 outcrops in more detail and to try to 52 00:03:12,309 --> 00:03:09,360 get a sense of the 53 00:03:14,470 --> 00:03:12,319 geology that surrounds those potentially 54 00:03:16,550 --> 00:03:14,480 stromatolite bearing outcrops and try to 55 00:03:18,149 --> 00:03:16,560 get a sense for what the ancient 56 00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:18,159 environment looked like at the time that 57 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:20,400 those rocks were forming the claim was 58 00:03:24,630 --> 00:03:22,000 such a big deal 59 00:03:28,070 --> 00:03:24,640 because if it proves to be true 60 00:03:30,869 --> 00:03:28,080 then this pushes back the earliest signs 61 00:03:33,110 --> 00:03:30,879 of life in earth's geological record by 62 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:33,120 a couple of hundred million years 63 00:03:36,949 --> 00:03:35,200 it means that the window of opportunity 64 00:03:39,030 --> 00:03:36,959 for life to emerge doesn't have to be 65 00:03:41,110 --> 00:03:39,040 very big you know literally as the last 66 00:03:42,149 --> 00:03:41,120 bombardment is occurring that you can 67 00:03:44,149 --> 00:03:42,159 say that 68 00:03:46,390 --> 00:03:44,159 life can take hold at least our one 69 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:46,400 example we have that life took hold go 70 00:03:49,830 --> 00:03:48,720 to mars it means that only it only also 71 00:03:51,910 --> 00:03:49,840 had to 72 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:51,920 maintain its conditions it's sort of 73 00:03:55,270 --> 00:03:53,680 cradle of life it's you know it's 74 00:03:56,630 --> 00:03:55,280 opportunity for life to emerge for that 75 00:03:58,550 --> 00:03:56,640 short period of time it didn't have to 76 00:04:00,470 --> 00:03:58,560 sort of maintain it for a couple hundred 77 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:00,480 million years longer 78 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:03,360 and when you go back to those very old 79 00:04:08,949 --> 00:04:06,000 rocks they're usually altered and 80 00:04:11,270 --> 00:04:08,959 deformed and it's very difficult to find 81 00:04:13,910 --> 00:04:11,280 those signs of life but those are also 82 00:04:15,750 --> 00:04:13,920 the most interesting rocks to look at 83 00:04:17,749 --> 00:04:15,760 because we don't know when life 84 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:17,759 originated on earth and we don't know 85 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:20,160 what that earliest life was like 86 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:20,880 so 87 00:04:26,150 --> 00:04:24,240 the record that we have from geology 88 00:04:28,469 --> 00:04:26,160 is in these rocks that are very 89 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:28,479 difficult to interpret sorting out 90 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:34,150 sampling here in greenland is 91 00:04:38,629 --> 00:04:35,440 you know it's not all that different 92 00:04:39,830 --> 00:04:38,639 from sampling anywhere else geologists 93 00:04:41,430 --> 00:04:39,840 tools are 94 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:41,440 kind of the same no matter where you go 95 00:04:46,469 --> 00:04:44,400 you need a hammer a chisel a little you 96 00:04:49,749 --> 00:04:46,479 know hand lens to look at the rocks up 97 00:04:51,830 --> 00:04:49,759 close field notebook camera and you know 98 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:51,840 you record your observations and when 99 00:04:56,070 --> 00:04:54,160 you think you've zeroed in on a piece of 100 00:04:58,230 --> 00:04:56,080 rock that might be worth taking back to 101 00:04:59,909 --> 00:04:58,240 the lab you get your trusty rock hammer 102 00:05:00,870 --> 00:04:59,919 out and just start banging away until 103 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:00,880 the 104 00:05:07,510 --> 00:05:04,960 when we're looking at rocks trying to 105 00:05:08,390 --> 00:05:07,520 understand if they preserve evidence of 106 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:08,400 life 107 00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:11,039 we look for things in the rock that 108 00:05:16,469 --> 00:05:14,080 cannot form without the influence of 109 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:16,479 life they can change the chemistry and 110 00:05:21,189 --> 00:05:18,720 they can actually change the shape of 111 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:21,199 the ground and they can make things like 112 00:05:26,950 --> 00:05:24,720 peaks and domes that are sometimes 113 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:26,960 unique to the biology 114 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:29,120 again i think here what you need to do 115 00:05:33,029 --> 00:05:31,280 is look at the context of the rocks 116 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:33,039 around those stromatolites and try to 117 00:05:36,310 --> 00:05:34,880 get a sense for what that geology is 118 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:36,320 telling you 119 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:38,880 this is our sample here it came from the 120 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:40,000 output 121 00:05:43,270 --> 00:05:41,680 that you sort of cut and polish the face 122 00:05:45,430 --> 00:05:43,280 there 123 00:05:46,550 --> 00:05:45,440 and if if it was really a cone-shaped 124 00:05:48,469 --> 00:05:46,560 structure 125 00:05:50,310 --> 00:05:48,479 then 126 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:50,320 you shouldn't see it 127 00:05:53,350 --> 00:05:51,600 on the back of the sample you shouldn't 128 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:53,360 see it in the back of the hole there 129 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:56,000 that's about 14 centimeters depth hole 130 00:05:58,629 --> 00:05:57,360 and you're still seeing the structure 131 00:06:01,590 --> 00:05:58,639 there yeah 132 00:06:02,950 --> 00:06:01,600 so it's not a cone it's a it's a ridge 133 00:06:05,430 --> 00:06:02,960 if you can sort of reconstruct that in 134 00:06:07,189 --> 00:06:05,440 your mind i've got to prove the uh the 135 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:07,199 three-dimensional morphology absolutely 136 00:06:10,150 --> 00:06:08,960 have to prove it's the same story you 137 00:06:11,749 --> 00:06:10,160 can see 138 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:11,759 the uh the structure at the back of the 139 00:06:16,309 --> 00:06:13,120 hole there it's 140 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:16,319 maybe 15 centimeters or so 141 00:06:19,990 --> 00:06:17,520 it was present at the front that's 142 00:06:21,510 --> 00:06:20,000 present at the back so it it's at least 143 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:21,520 that distance 144 00:06:25,749 --> 00:06:23,440 in length 145 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:25,759 it's not a kind shape at all 146 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:27,360 a lot of times when you're looking for 147 00:06:32,469 --> 00:06:28,960 something that's related to earth 148 00:06:34,790 --> 00:06:32,479 history i i think of it as being 149 00:06:37,029 --> 00:06:34,800 like i'm a detective and i'm looking for 150 00:06:39,029 --> 00:06:37,039 clues but the thing is that the rocks 151 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:39,039 that are not very good at preserving 152 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:42,000 clues and my job as a geologist is to 153 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:44,400 take those little bits of information 154 00:06:49,589 --> 00:06:47,280 and see if i can make a story about what 155 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:49,599 happened in the rocks part of making 156 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:51,840 that story though is understanding the 157 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:54,880 uncertainty the story is never complete 158 00:06:59,270 --> 00:06:56,880 because you're always missing a lot of 159 00:07:02,550 --> 00:06:59,280 the clues because the clues have just 160 00:07:04,710 --> 00:07:02,560 been lost through time 161 00:07:06,309 --> 00:07:04,720 after investigating the site thoroughly 162 00:07:08,550 --> 00:07:06,319 the team concludes that there is 163 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:08,560 insufficient evidence of life in these 164 00:07:12,550 --> 00:07:10,240 structures 165 00:07:17,029 --> 00:07:12,560 however there is still much to learn 166 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:17,039 from the geology in this environment 167 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:19,840 the rocks that we're looking at here in 168 00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:22,080 greenland are 169 00:07:26,070 --> 00:07:24,479 similar if not identical in age to the 170 00:07:28,469 --> 00:07:26,080 rocks that we're going to be exploring 171 00:07:31,029 --> 00:07:28,479 with the mars 2020 rover we'd like to 172 00:07:33,270 --> 00:07:31,039 think that we can use the 173 00:07:35,749 --> 00:07:33,280 lessons that we take from studying the 174 00:07:37,589 --> 00:07:35,759 earth's geological record and apply them 175 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:37,599 when we start exploring the geology of 176 00:07:40,309 --> 00:07:38,880 mars 177 00:07:42,870 --> 00:07:40,319 one of the really interesting things 178 00:07:46,869 --> 00:07:42,880 about searching for life on other worlds 179 00:07:49,189 --> 00:07:46,879 is as a scientist i have to actually 180 00:07:50,950 --> 00:07:49,199 when i'm looking for life anywhere i 181 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:50,960 have to actually have a model of what 182 00:07:55,990 --> 00:07:52,960 i'm looking for to help guide my 183 00:07:57,830 --> 00:07:56,000 observations and so by looking at these 184 00:08:00,390 --> 00:07:57,840 places that are very difficult to 185 00:08:03,029 --> 00:08:00,400 interpret on earth we get that practice 186 00:08:05,430 --> 00:08:03,039 and experience of how do we look at 187 00:08:07,510 --> 00:08:05,440 something and what are the questions 188 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:07,520 that we need to ask and what are the 189 00:08:14,469 --> 00:08:10,560 observations we need to take to be able 190 00:08:17,510 --> 00:08:14,479 to answer them any claim that is made 191 00:08:18,790 --> 00:08:17,520 about a biosignature on mars is going to 192 00:08:19,990 --> 00:08:18,800 be 193 00:08:23,029 --> 00:08:20,000 debated 194 00:08:25,189 --> 00:08:23,039 so i think that this workshop gives us 195 00:08:27,990 --> 00:08:25,199 an opportunity to 196 00:08:30,629 --> 00:08:28,000 exercise our ability to have civil 197 00:08:32,469 --> 00:08:30,639 disagreements over uh matters of 198 00:08:33,750 --> 00:08:32,479 scientific importance because i think 199 00:08:34,949 --> 00:08:33,760 we're going to be doing 200 00:08:36,389 --> 00:08:34,959 much of that 201 00:08:39,190 --> 00:08:36,399 you know with the data that comes back 202 00:08:40,630 --> 00:08:39,200 from mars as well 203 00:08:42,550 --> 00:08:40,640 i think seeing the rocks in the fish is 204 00:08:45,190 --> 00:08:42,560 just so important you can't do that for 205 00:08:46,470 --> 00:08:45,200 many people so uh i think the next best 206 00:08:48,389 --> 00:08:46,480 thing is to try and recreate that in a 207 00:08:49,990 --> 00:08:48,399 virtual terrain sort of field trip 208 00:08:52,070 --> 00:08:50,000 company that's what we're trying to do 209 00:08:53,350 --> 00:08:52,080 so onsite is an application that we 210 00:08:55,350 --> 00:08:53,360 developed for the mars science 211 00:08:56,710 --> 00:08:55,360 laboratory mission to help the science 212 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:56,720 team that works with the mars rover 213 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:57,920 understand the context of the 214 00:09:00,949 --> 00:08:59,920 environment around the rover and it 215 00:09:02,630 --> 00:09:00,959 provides 216 00:09:03,829 --> 00:09:02,640 scientists the ability 217 00:09:06,389 --> 00:09:03,839 to 218 00:09:09,910 --> 00:09:06,399 basically meet on mars so it's taking 219 00:09:11,990 --> 00:09:09,920 martian data down from the the rover and 220 00:09:14,389 --> 00:09:12,000 using photogrammetry to stitch it 221 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:14,399 together to create a 3d model of the 222 00:09:18,070 --> 00:09:17,040 outcrop and then scientists involved in 223 00:09:20,550 --> 00:09:18,080 the mission 224 00:09:24,070 --> 00:09:20,560 and engineers as well are able to use 225 00:09:25,509 --> 00:09:24,080 that 3d model enter the terrain and make 226 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:25,519 decisions with a much better 227 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:28,160 understanding of the context we're also 228 00:09:32,230 --> 00:09:30,480 using lidar imagery out here which is 229 00:09:34,470 --> 00:09:32,240 something not available on on mars so 230 00:09:36,389 --> 00:09:34,480 that's using a laser scanner to 231 00:09:38,389 --> 00:09:36,399 basically three-dimensionally scan 232 00:09:40,310 --> 00:09:38,399 outcrops and get uh 233 00:09:42,790 --> 00:09:40,320 higher fidelity data so that we can get 234 00:09:45,110 --> 00:09:42,800 some very accurate information yeah so 235 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:45,120 this this is the the map of the primary 236 00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:47,040 outcrops and the laser scans this is the 237 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:49,200 a outcrop here 238 00:09:52,870 --> 00:09:50,880 this is this this is the there's the 239 00:09:54,389 --> 00:09:52,880 flag there's the cutting block and the 240 00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:54,399 other cuts 241 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:55,680 now on mars it's it's a different 242 00:09:59,269 --> 00:09:57,440 scenario because we're limited to the 243 00:10:00,790 --> 00:09:59,279 the instruments on board the rover uh 244 00:10:02,710 --> 00:10:00,800 the rover doesn't have lidar it'd be 245 00:10:05,110 --> 00:10:02,720 great if it did so all we have are the 246 00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:05,120 2d images to work with and 3d 247 00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:06,880 reconstruction from 2d images has been 248 00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:08,640 part of the mars missions 249 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:09,920 all the way back to pathfinder in the 250 00:10:16,310 --> 00:10:13,200 late 90s but it's it's always been on a 251 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:16,320 per image basis from one rover position 252 00:10:21,509 --> 00:10:18,959 so one of the innovations of 253 00:10:24,069 --> 00:10:21,519 in onsite is we started combining rover 254 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:24,079 imagery from multiple rover positions so 255 00:10:27,190 --> 00:10:25,760 if the rover's parked next to a rock and 256 00:10:28,710 --> 00:10:27,200 the next day you drive around the rock 257 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:28,720 you can take imagery from those two 258 00:10:32,790 --> 00:10:30,640 positions and get a more complete model 259 00:10:33,829 --> 00:10:32,800 of that rock than from any one one 260 00:10:34,949 --> 00:10:33,839 position 261 00:10:37,030 --> 00:10:34,959 on its own 262 00:10:38,790 --> 00:10:37,040 and the holy grail of this is to take 263 00:10:40,790 --> 00:10:38,800 all of the rover drives from landing to 264 00:10:43,030 --> 00:10:40,800 the current position register them all 265 00:10:44,550 --> 00:10:43,040 together so you could walk from the 266 00:10:46,389 --> 00:10:44,560 landing site to the current rover 267 00:10:48,710 --> 00:10:46,399 position seeing high quality 3d imagery 268 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:48,720 all the way so onsite was started in the 269 00:10:53,269 --> 00:10:51,120 context of the mars river missions but 270 00:10:55,750 --> 00:10:53,279 the capability that that onsite and 271 00:10:57,190 --> 00:10:55,760 tools like it provide is really it's a 272 00:10:58,710 --> 00:10:57,200 virtual presence and situational 273 00:11:01,030 --> 00:10:58,720 awareness in an environment that's hard 274 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:01,040 to visit mars is an extreme example of 275 00:11:05,110 --> 00:11:03,040 that but where we are today and in 276 00:11:06,949 --> 00:11:05,120 western greenland is not quite as hard 277 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:06,959 to visit as mars but it's certainly not 278 00:11:11,030 --> 00:11:09,360 easy you can imagine geologists going 279 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:11,040 into the field to these remote locations 280 00:11:15,910 --> 00:11:13,279 and bringing back not only their written 281 00:11:17,910 --> 00:11:15,920 field notes and photos but a 3d capture 282 00:11:20,389 --> 00:11:17,920 of the the environment that becomes kind 283 00:11:21,829 --> 00:11:20,399 of an immersive field notebook that they 284 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:21,839 can revisit they can share with their 285 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:23,920 colleagues and with the public and help 286 00:11:27,430 --> 00:11:25,120 to communicate 287 00:11:29,350 --> 00:11:27,440 what that environment is like in a way 288 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:29,360 that's that's really hard to get without 289 00:11:32,790 --> 00:11:31,200 actually being there in the field so i 290 00:11:35,030 --> 00:11:32,800 don't think this technology ever really 291 00:11:37,110 --> 00:11:35,040 replaces a human in the field 292 00:11:39,430 --> 00:11:37,120 whether or not humans will go to mars is 293 00:11:41,350 --> 00:11:39,440 is uh you know not my expertise 294 00:11:43,350 --> 00:11:41,360 but if and when humans do go to mars 295 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:43,360 only if the select few will 296 00:11:46,790 --> 00:11:44,880 go to mars but with this kind of 297 00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:46,800 technology they can bring along experts 298 00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:49,440 from earth to extend their knowledge and 299 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:50,880 share that experience with the public so 300 00:11:53,650 --> 00:11:52,480 the whole world gets to go along you 301 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:53,660 know for the ride 302 00:11:58,310 --> 00:11:55,600 [Music] 303 00:12:01,590 --> 00:11:58,320 so i've never been here before and the 304 00:12:04,389 --> 00:12:01,600 landscape in this environment is just i 305 00:12:06,310 --> 00:12:04,399 i could see that my mind has been blown 306 00:12:07,350 --> 00:12:06,320 being out here for a couple of days i 307 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:07,360 mean the 308 00:12:13,670 --> 00:12:10,560 the scale of the glaciers the the the 309 00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:13,680 complete lack of vegetation in this area 310 00:12:18,230 --> 00:12:15,760 uh other than sort of you know lichens 311 00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:18,240 and moss it's just a it's kind of an 312 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:20,000 otherworldly place 313 00:12:23,990 --> 00:12:22,160 it's really starkly beautiful i think in 314 00:12:26,470 --> 00:12:24,000 terms of why anybody should care about 315 00:12:28,550 --> 00:12:26,480 these rocks i mean they are 316 00:12:29,750 --> 00:12:28,560 they are the record of 317 00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:29,760 some of the 318 00:12:34,550 --> 00:12:33,120 oldest processes occurring on our planet 319 00:12:37,030 --> 00:12:34,560 i mean there are very few places that 320 00:12:39,590 --> 00:12:37,040 preserve rocks this old and so so 321 00:12:42,790 --> 00:12:39,600 they're really uh a precious resource 322 00:12:45,670 --> 00:12:42,800 for geologists to understand what was 323 00:12:48,470 --> 00:12:45,680 going on uh on the earth you know 324 00:12:50,829 --> 00:12:48,480 close to you know in its in its infancy 325 00:12:53,670 --> 00:12:50,839 uh so it's an important and special 326 00:12:56,069 --> 00:12:53,680 place i will gain a huge insight into 327 00:12:59,590 --> 00:12:56,079 these particular rocks but it will also 328 00:13:02,069 --> 00:12:59,600 increase my understanding of of how you 329 00:13:04,069 --> 00:13:02,079 actually demonstrate that something is 330 00:13:06,629 --> 00:13:04,079 or isn't a biosignature that i will 331 00:13:08,629 --> 00:13:06,639 apply in all my other work 332 00:13:10,949 --> 00:13:08,639 it's the ability to 333 00:13:12,629 --> 00:13:10,959 minimize the ambiguity before it even 334 00:13:15,269 --> 00:13:12,639 gets to the publication minimise the 335 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:15,279 ambiguity and minimise the bias when it 336 00:13:18,150 --> 00:13:16,639 gets out into the press it's going to be 337 00:13:20,230 --> 00:13:18,160 that much more considered that much more 338 00:13:25,810 --> 00:13:20,240 robust i think that's what's the best